Re: Call for a Jasmine Revolution in the IETF: Privacy, Integrity, Obscu

On 11/03/2011, at 5:07 PM, Dean Willis wrote:

> On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> > >
> > This will have the effect of isolating some companies and countries from the 
> > Internet. Is that a good outcome?
>
> You mean some third-world (or soon to be) junta-dictator might officially and 
> deliberately cut their economy off from the world's communication networks, 
> thereby insuring economic failure, rather than suffer the risk that their 
> citizens might be exposed to external influence or use the Internet to 
> complain about or conspire against their "lawful leaders", rather as North 
> Korea has done?
>
> I'm OK with that. It helps bring about their failure due to economic collapse 
> rather than requiring outside force to stop their depredations, although it 
> might take a few generations to work.
... compared to the much faster social changes that have been witnessed in 
places where there's been even partial exposure to external information, that 
seems like a poor outcome. Collapse is messy and very dangerous for the people 
you want to help.


> I'm also okay with air-dropping satellite terminals and television receivers 
> to their victims, and with beaming high-power wireless signals across their 
> borders in order to speed things up.
And how likely are those things to actually happen and have a measurable 
effect? Seriously. 

I have severe doubts about whether this is an appropriate and capable forum for 
making such weighty judgements. YMMV.


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Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/



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