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RE: [siprec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-siprec-req-09.txt> (Use Cases andRequirements for SIP-based Media Recording (SIPREC)) toInformational RFC

2011-04-14 11:27:35
I am not sure that having wall clock only for CS start is enough, especially 
for partial metadata update. I will prefer to have on media level

Leon

-----Original Message-----
From: Elwell, John [mailto:john(_dot_)elwell(_at_)siemens-enterprise(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:58 PM
To: Leon Portman; Muthu ArulMozhi Perumal (mperumal); ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Cc: siprec(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [siprec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-siprec-req-09.txt> (Use Cases 
andRequirements for SIP-based Media Recording (SIPREC)) toInformational RFC

Understood, but if we have wall clock time for the start of a CS, wouldn't that 
be sufficient? The new requirement would cover synchronization of all media 
start/stops relative to that time.

John (as individual)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Portman [mailto:Leon(_dot_)Portman(_at_)nice(_dot_)com]
Sent: 14 April 2011 13:19
To: Elwell, John; Muthu ArulMozhi Perumal (mperumal); ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Cc: siprec(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [siprec] Last Call: 
<draft-ietf-siprec-req-09.txt> (Use Cases andRequirements for 
SIP-based Media Recording (SIPREC)) toInformational RFC

Actually REQ-022 and REQ-023 describing not only requirement to 
synchronize between different media streams but more importantly 
ability to relate them to real world (wall) clock. It is not only 
important to playback them correctly but also to know when it was 
said.
One example is continue trading after closing hour (even for one 
second is not allowed)

And if these media are synchronized to wall clock then they are also 
synchronized between them thus I am not sure if we need this 
additional requirement.

Thanks

Leon

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<draft-ietf-siprec-req-09.txt> (Use Cases andRequirements for 
SIP-based Media Recording (SIPREC)) toInformational RFC


 

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ArulMozhi Perumal
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Subject: Re: [siprec] Last Call: 
<draft-ietf-siprec-req-09.txt> (Use Cases andRequirements for 
SIP-based Media Recording (SIPREC)) toInformational RFC

I've one major comment. It draft discusses synchronization
between the
recorded media streams and synchronized playback, which
seem important
for certain applications:

<snip>
Some applications require the recording of more than one
media stream,
possibly of different types. Media are synchronized, either
at storage
or at playback.
</snip>

However, in the requirements section it doesn't seem REQ-022 and
REQ-023 are all that are need and sufficient to achieve this with 
needed precision. So, I would suggest adding another requirement as
follows:
The mechanism MUST provide means for facilitating
synchronization of
the recorded media streams and metadata either at storage or at 
playback.
This includes, but not limited to, the information needed as per
REQ-022 and REQ-023.
[JRE] This seems a reasonable addition. I wonder if the new 
requirement (first sentence only) is sufficient as a
**replacement** for REQ-022 and REQ-023. On reading REQ-022 and 
REQ-023 again, it is not so clear what their purpose was, and they 
seem to be more like a solution than a requirement.
One purpose would certainly be that covered by Muthu's new 
requirement. Was there any other purpose?

John


A nitpick:
Use Case 8
In cases where calls inside or between branches must be recorded, a 
centralized recording system in data centers together with
telephony
infrastructure (e.g. PBX) me deployed.

s/me/may be

Muthu

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