We already have attributes Start-Time / End-time in Media Stream block.
This is for the same purpose to indicate the wall clock time for
start/end of media.
Ram
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I am not sure that having wall clock only for CS start is enough,
especially for partial metadata update. I will prefer to have on media
level
Leon
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Understood, but if we have wall clock time for the start of a CS,
wouldn't that be sufficient? The new requirement would cover
synchronization of all media start/stops relative to that time.
John (as individual)
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Actually REQ-022 and REQ-023 describing not only requirement to
synchronize between different media streams but more importantly
ability to relate them to real world (wall) clock. It is not only
important to playback them correctly but also to know when it was
said.
One example is continue trading after closing hour (even for one
second is not allowed)
And if these media are synchronized to wall clock then they are also
synchronized between them thus I am not sure if we need this
additional requirement.
Thanks
Leon
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I've one major comment. It draft discusses synchronization
between the
recorded media streams and synchronized playback, which
seem important
for certain applications:
<snip>
Some applications require the recording of more than one
media stream,
possibly of different types. Media are synchronized, either
at storage
or at playback.
</snip>
However, in the requirements section it doesn't seem REQ-022 and
REQ-023 are all that are need and sufficient to achieve this with
needed precision. So, I would suggest adding another requirement
as
follows:
The mechanism MUST provide means for facilitating
synchronization of
the recorded media streams and metadata either at storage or at
playback.
This includes, but not limited to, the information needed as per
REQ-022 and REQ-023.
[JRE] This seems a reasonable addition. I wonder if the new
requirement (first sentence only) is sufficient as a
**replacement** for REQ-022 and REQ-023. On reading REQ-022 and
REQ-023 again, it is not so clear what their purpose was, and they
seem to be more like a solution than a requirement.
One purpose would certainly be that covered by Muthu's new
requirement. Was there any other purpose?
John
A nitpick:
Use Case 8
In cases where calls inside or between branches must be recorded,
a
centralized recording system in data centers together with
telephony
infrastructure (e.g. PBX) me deployed.
s/me/may be
Muthu
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