Hi Bob,
At 14:25 18-04-2011, Bob Hinden wrote:
I didn't say no one else could do the job adequately. I said "would
have a negative impact" on the operations of the IETF.
Some examples where an I* chair had a significant influence on a
decision that IAOC made include:
- The hiring of the Transitional RSE
- Many of the Beijing meeting issues (prior and post signing the MOU)
- Specific venue selections (in one case avoiding a less than ideal venue)
- The need for transparency in certain IAOC actions (day passes,
venue rotation)
- Discussion of what policy decisions that the IAOC can make vs.
the IESG vs. community
- Discussion about when to get community feedback
- Secretariat contract (RFP, bidders review, selection, etc.)
- RFC Publisher and Publisher contracts (RFP, bidders review,
selection, etc.)
Some of these decision might have been different without one or more
I* chairs being directly involved in the decision. Please review
the minutes for more detail.
From RFC 4071:
"The IAOC shall be accountable to the IETF community for the
effectiveness, efficiency, and transparency of the IASA."
In a personal note that Olaf posted (
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg66161.html ), it
is mentioned that it takes 0.7 FTE. I do not believe that the
decisions mentioned above are unimportant. However, you have to
consider which decisions require your attention when you have a
limited amount of time available.
The current members of the IAOC, excluding ex officio, are:
Eric Burger
Dave Crocker
Marshall Eubanks
Bob Hinden
Ray Pelletier (non-voting)
None of them are new to the IETF. If it requires I* Chairs for the
IAOC to be transparent, something is not right.
I think the I* chairs, in my view bring a broad view of the
community and operational needs based on what's involved in doing
their jobs than another person would not have.
If I understand your arguments, it is also about avoiding a
disconnect between the administrative side of the IETF and the IAB/IESG.
draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership-00 argues for a change to
reduce the workload and make the I* Chair positions more
attractive. Would it help if the IAOC Chair has a liaison position
on the IAB and IESG? The IAB and IESG Chairs can use their
discretion to determine which IAOC meetings they should attend. The
IAOC Chair gets a broader view.
The above pushes the workload around instead of addressing the
problem. If this trend continues, the best fit people will turn down
I* positions.
Regards,
-sm
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