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Re: is IETF trying to do too much?

2011-08-03 13:17:20
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On 08/03/2011 10:51 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:

"Keith" == Keith Moore <moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com> writes:
    Keith> I keep going to working group meetings that have overflowing
    Keith> agendas of mostly presentations, with little time for
    Keith> discussion. 

+1

And chairs, please don't tell me to take it "offline" --- the meeting is
offline.  The list is "online".  The purpose of the meeting is to
discuss, not for "presenters" to "present".

I completely agree with this, but I would point out that there is some barriers
to having discussions during the meeting.  I went to one session where the I-D
was updated just before the presentation and the slides were not available
(that's an extreme case, but it's not the first time it happened).  I would have
things to discuss about this presentation if I had a chance to read it and think
a bit about it.

In my opinion, the cut-off as it is is fine for I-Ds that will be presented,
chairs should not accept requests for slots without a first draft of the
presentation, a WG session without agenda on the Saturday should be canceled and
chairs should upload the presentations as soon they receive them.

I personally would like to switch to the Tufte style, (i.e. uploading a
printout, which can also be distributed to people before the meeting in printed
form, and having *only* a discussion), but I am not sure how people will react.


I understand that for some organizations, unless a participant does a
presentation, they get no funding to travel.  Not my problem.



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Marc Petit-Huguenin
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