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Re: Anotherj RFP without IETF community input

2011-10-20 11:15:04
Hi,

you might want to have a look at the Meetecho IETF sites (see, e.g., 
http://ietf81.conf.meetecho.com/), which contain session recordings and give 
you a flavour of what is currently available to remote participants. BTW, 
Meetecho is XCON, mediactrl, RTP and XMPP compliant. As far as I saw, most of 
the desiderata included in the RFP message might be satisfied with our 
platform, which, not by chance, has been conceived at the outset with an 
IETF-minded approach.

Simon

Dave Cridland <dave(_at_)cridland(_dot_)net> ha scritto:

On Thu Oct 20 14:33:43 2011, Simon Perreault wrote:
On 2011-10-20 08:41, George, Wes wrote:
I'm also completely mystified as to why IPv6 support for all
proposed/requested features is not an explicitly stated 
requirement,
even at this phase.

And more generally, this should be considered an opportunity for
dogfooding the protocols we create. IPv6 is one of them. SIP, RTP, 
the
XCON stuff, and XMPP could be others.


Right - the current system is XEP-0045 (an XSF thing) over XMPP (an 
IETF thing), supplemented by MP3 over HTTP for audio. The chatrooms I 
find fine - if anyone has suggestions for what else those need to do 
I'd appreciate knowing (as would the rest of the participants in the 
standards group at the XSF).

Having audio fed over RTP would be an obvious first step, and that 
could be negotiable by both XMPP and SIP clients.

As a remote participant for the vast majority of IETFs I've (not?) 
attended, I'd humbly suggest that the most useful things a remote 
participant can have are reasonably synchronized audio (instead of 
several seconds delay, which makes timely responses difficult) and 
ensuring that the chatrooms are visible in the physical room (thus 
making all in-room participants aware of the chatroom's remote 
participants and what their input is). A second projector and screen 
in the room is embarrassingly low-tech, but very effective.

I can see the utility of having some kind of screencast thing for the 
slides, although as a rule, I hate slides, so this comes a distant 
third. Being able to downlaod them and sing along at home is just 
fine.

I don't particularly care if my actual voice isn't heard in the room. 
I understand that many will miss my dulcet tones, of course, but the 
thing I really want to be able to do, as a remote participant, is 
participate.

Dave.
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