I agree with Cullen (except that I don't love the taste of dog food). Asking
for IPv6 might be a good idea, but the full group of IETF participants as a
group aren't the right people to negotiate hotel contracts, and finding a hotel
that is reasonably priced and has the capacity to host an IETF appears to be
hard enough as it is.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:58 AM
To: George, Wes
Cc: iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: IPv6 support in hotel contract?
We just failed to manager to find a venue in Asia because there was no venue
that meant all the constraints. I'd rather not add more constraints to the
hotel selection. I love the taste of dog food, but v6 in the hotel is not
something that I find critical to accomplish the task I come to IETF to get
done.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:01 AM, George, Wes wrote:
My last message caused something else to occur to me - there has been a lot
of discussion both here and at NANOG about hotels being woefully
underprepared for the internet (and address) use that their guests generate
when a conference full of geeks and their multiple devices per person descend
upon them. Sometimes the IETF is successful at convincing the hotel to let
them take over the internet service in the guest rooms, sometimes not.
Perhaps we can kill two birds with one stone by starting to require IPv6
service in the guest rooms when we enter into negotiations with hotels. If
they don't have it, we'll be happy to temporarily take over the internet
service, or assist them in getting it enabled permanently in their existing
network, and if neither of those options are acceptable, it provides
negotiating leverage on other things. This also has the net effect of
starting to make it clear to hotel management that IPv6 is going to start
being mandatory for some subset of their guests before too much longer.
I realize that having something in the contract doesn't mean that we're any
more likely to get it. But the fact that it's in the contract makes a
statement in and of itself. IAOC, any reason why this couldn't be added,
especially given how far in advance you're negotiating with venues?
Thanks,
Wes George
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