+1
We can put all kinds of wonderful constraints on hotels if we want to - make
sure they are enviromental friendly, non discriminatory in their hiring
practices, donate to save whales and all kinds of other worthy causes and do
things such as transitioning to IPv6 plus be really cheap and be in interesting
and cheap to get to locations - then we will likely never be able to meet
anywhere.
IF IPv6 really requires IETF to use its business to influence hotels to adopt
it then its a technolgy that deserves to go the way of the DoDo. IPv6 will be
adopted because it is needed and brings commerical benefits to those that
deploy it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:57 PM
To: George, Wes <wesley(_dot_)george(_at_)twcable(_dot_)com>
Cc: iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>;
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: IPv6 support in hotel contract?
We just failed to manager to find a venue in Asia because there was no venue
that meant all the constraints. I'd rather not add more constraints to the
hotel selection. I love the taste of dog food, but v6 in the hotel is not
something that I find critical to accomplish the task I come to IETF to get
done.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:01 AM, George, Wes wrote:
My last message caused something else to occur to me – there has been a lot
of discussion both here and at NANOG about hotels being woefully
underprepared for the internet (and address) use that their guests generate
when a conference full of geeks and their multiple devices per person descend
upon them. Sometimes the IETF is successful at convincing the hotel to let
them take over the internet service in the guest rooms, sometimes not.
Perhaps we can kill two birds with one stone by starting to require IPv6
service in the guest rooms when we enter into negotiations with hotels. If
they don’t have it, we’ll be happy to temporarily take over the internet
service, or assist them in getting it enabled permanently in their existing
network, and if neither of those options are acceptable, it provides
negotiating leverage on other things. This also has the net effect of
starting to make it clear to hotel management that IPv6 is going to start
being mandatory for some subset of their guests before too much longer.
I realize that having something in the contract doesn’t mean that we’re any
more likely to get it. But the fact that it’s in the contract makes a
statement in and of itself. IAOC, any reason why this couldn’t be added,
especially given how far in advance you’re negotiating with venues?
Thanks,
Wes George
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