At 05:52 24-10-2011, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
As jabber scribe, I view part of my responsibility as relaying questions
asked on jabber (if no one else is doing so). For groups that have
secretaries, I suggest that that be part of the secretary's responsibilities.
The secretary is busy taking minutes. That doesn't mean that the secretary
cannot draw attention if someone is asking a question on Jabber. The audio
recording is a handy supplement when the speaker cannot be identified or to
cross-check the details.
In my experience that unfortunately happens about %10 of the time. We
need some way for remote participants to virtually stand in the mic queue so
they get called upon and allowed to not only ask a question, but to follow-up -
especially if the presenter needs clarification on the question.
As for remote participation, if you do not know anyone in the room you are
going to be ignored. That's an IETF feature that also applies for people who
attend meetings. There are little things that can help remote participants
follow what is going on. Melinda Shore mentioned some of them. Most of the
fixes are non-technical.
Jabber/etc... are really bubblegum and bailing wire solutions. I have
been forced to skip meetings in the past due to budget issues, and can tell you
that relying on others to proxy for you just doesn't work. Despite knowing
someone in the room, you are assuming they are not busy trying to work
themselves either participating in the meeting, writing documents, or whatever.
I've tried Skyping into meetings, jabber, whatever and it just doesn't work
well because the people that ultimately must speak for you often can't. Also,
you assume people know someone well enough to ask for them; which is asking a
lot especially for new people.
The best approach I've witnessed (and used many times) is WebEx where
you can explicitly request to ask a question by virtually raising your hand,
and then when the chair recognizes you, you can ask your own question. You can
then interact with the presenter - and if the chairs are being sophisticated,
they could project your face on a screen. You can also use this mechanism as a
means when gauging consensus where the chair(s) ask for a feeling of the room
and for people to raise their hands.
--Tom
If you do not go to meetings, it's unlikely that you will be able to follow
the BoF you are interested in. There may be times when decisions are taken
during a meeting. It is not worth the nit-picking if the outcome won't
change.
Regards,
-sm
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