On 10/31/2011 14:59, Joel jaeggli wrote:
On 10/31/11 14:45 , Doug Barton wrote:
On 10/31/2011 14:26, Joel jaeggli wrote:
At a minimum we've got more than enough hubris to go around and if
inside jokes at our own expense defuse some of that I see no problem
with it.
If you want the IETF to be an organization of insiders slapping each
other on the back while congratulating one another on the cleverness of
our inside jokes, this is clearly the road you want to travel.
OTOH, if you want the IETF to be an open body producing standards for
the big-I Internet, we may want to consider prioritizing clarity and
avoiding gratuitous confusion.
As with most speculative business one has to recognize that the process
will fail more often than it succeeds. Beyond the proccess that we apply
to the production of product, if the work product is bad then no-one
will use it.
None of the above is germane to my actual point.
We can stand by the evidence prof provided the RFC series
and the existence of the big-I internet that it was found sufficiently
informative to be useful.
... neither is the fact that we've had a degree of success to date. The
question isn't, "Have we done $something?" the question should always
be, "Can we do better?"
In the early days of what became the big-I Internet all you had was a
small group of insiders, but fortunately they were able to recognize the
magnitude of what they were accomplishing, and set up some processes to
help it grow and evolve. We do both them and the current Internet user
base a huge disservice if we do not recognize that the world we operate
in now is fundamentally different from the world that they operated in.
The Internet is now a crucial part of the world's communications
infrastructure, and every excuse is being made at every level for those
who are !us to gain as much control over it as they can. WSIS, IGF, ITU,
etc. are merely warning shots ... the motivation and drive toward taking
control are only going to increase as time goes on. By behaving in a
foolish and unprofessional manner we are making it easier for them.
Doug
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