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Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-12-01 02:35:51
Randy,


On 11/30/11 6:09 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
skype etc. will learn.  This does prevent the breakage it just makes
it more controlled.  What's the bet Skype has a patched released
within a week of this being made available?
cool.  then, by that logic, let's use 240/4.  the apps will patch within
a week.  ok, maybe two.

As someone who tried to "Go There", I agree with you that 240/4 is not
usable.  It would be fine in routers in short order, as it's fairly easy
for ISPs to exert influence and get that code changed, but general
purpose computing and all the OSS systems are a completely different
kettle of fish.

But that actually supports the notion that we need to use a different
block of address space.  So does the argument that 10/8 et al are well
deployed within SPs. 

You wrote also that:

and all this is aside from the pnp, skype, ... and other breakage.
and, imiho, we can screw ipv4 life support.

To keep this in the realm of the technical, perhaps you would say (a
lot) more on how you think this would break IPv4?

For the record, I'm of two minds- I hate the idea that the SPs haven't
gotten farther along on transition, and I also wonder whether a rapider
deployment of something like 6rd would be better than renumbering all
edges into this space.  On the other hand, that speaks nothing about all
the content on v4 today, and that's where the pain point is.

Thanks,

Eliot
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