RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity)

> > But, as soon as a country says "if you have a
> > passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to
> > apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities.
It is sad to hear this. I actually never heard such restrictions for
people travelling to Turkey.

BTW: A lot of countries, including Israel, don't need a visa for Turkey.
For others it is technically a non-issue to get it at the border.

Beside many European cities there are direct flights to Istanbul from:
Los Angeles, Washington, Chicago, New York, Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul,
Bangkok, and Tel Aviv.

Cheers, 
Mehmet 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Ole Jacobsen (ole) [mailto:ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:48 PM
> To: John C Klensin
> Cc: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); Ersue, Mehmet (NSN -
DE/Munich); ext
> Geoff Mulligan; Richard Shockey; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; 
> dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net
> Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity)
>
> Yes, and sadly that rules out really good venues such as Kuala Lumpur,
quite possibly
> the least expensive (hotel wise) suitable location in Asia.
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor & Publisher
> http://cisco.com/ipj
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 Aug 2012, at 13:42, "John C Klensin" <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> 
> wrote:
>
> > Let me say that a different way.  We sometimes have to tolerate
> > countries, like the US, who a fussy about visas or immigration
> > procedures for people coming from specific other countries.  I
> > wish we didn't.  But, as soon as a country says "if you have a
> > passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to
> > apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities.
> >
> >   john
> >
> >
> > --On Thursday, August 09, 2012 22:22 +0200 "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN
> > - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit(_dot_)sprecher(_at_)nsn(_dot_)com> wrote:
> >
> > > Istanbul, Dubai, and similar places will not allow all of us
> > > in the community to participate in the meetings....
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
> > > Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:20 PM
> > > To: ext Geoff Mulligan; Ole Jacobsen
> > > Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net; Richard Shockey
> > > Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management
> > > granularity)
> > >
> > > Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city.
> > >
> > > Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton,
> > > InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels,
> > > close to each other.