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Re: [PWE3] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06

2013-01-08 05:02:22
Greg,

RFC 6428 expands RDI as:

   RDI: Remote Defect Indication

/Loa

On 2013-01-07 21:51, Greg Mirsky wrote:
Dear Nabil,
can we avoid different interpretation of the same abbreviation (RDI):

    RDI   Remote Defect Indication for Continuity Check Message

    RDI   Reverse Defect Indication

AFAIK, the latter form is the interpretation used by both IEEE 802.1ag
and Y.1731. How useful is the first form?

Regards,

Greg



On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Bitar, Nabil N
<nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)verizon(_dot_)com 
<mailto:nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)verizon(_dot_)com>> wrote:

    Hi Dave,
    Related to abbreviations comment below and to be clearer, I renamed
    the original terminology section to "Abbreviations and Terminology".
    I also created a subsection called "Abbreviations" ,and
    "Terminology" became the second subsection.  Here iis how the edits look


      3. Abbreviations and Terminology____


        3.1. Abbreviations____

    AISAlarm Indication Signal____

    ACAttachment Circuit____

    BFDBidirectional Forwarding Detection____

    CCContinuity Check____

    CCMContinuity Check Message____

    CECustomer Equipment____

    CVConnectivity Verification____

    E-LMI Ethernet Local Management Interface____

    EVCEthernet Virtual Circuit____

    LDPLabel Distribution Protocol____

    LoSLoss of Signal____

    MAMaintenance Association____

    MDMaintenance Domain____

    MEMaintenance Entity____

    MEGMaintenance Entity Group____

    MEPMaintenance End Point____

    MIPMaintenance End Point____

    MPLSMultiprotocol Label Switching____

    MS-PW Multi-Segment Pseudowire____

    NSNative Service____

    OAMOperations, Administration, and Maintenance____

    PEProvider Edge____

    PSNPacket Switched Network____

    PWPseudowire____

    RDIRemote Defect Indication for Continuity Check Message____

        RDI   Reverse Defect Indication

    S-PESwitching Provider Edge____

    TLVType Length Value____

    T-PETerminating Provider Edge____

    __ __


        3.2. Terminology____

    This document uses the following terms with corresponding
    definitions: ____

    - MD Level:Maintenance Domain (MD) Level which identifies a value in
    the range of 0-7 associated with Ethernet OAM frame. MD Level
    identifies the span of the Ethernet OAM frame.____

    - MEP:Maintenance End Point is responsible for origination and
    termination of OAM frames for a given MEG.____

    - MIP: Maintenance Intermediate Point is located between peer MEPs
    and can process OAM frames but does not initiate or terminate them.____

    Further, this document also uses the terminology and conventions
    used in [RFC6310].____



    Thanks,

    Nabil


    From: <Bitar>, Nabil N 
<nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com
    <mailto:nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com>>
    Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:28 AM
    To: "Black, David" <david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com
    <mailto:david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com>>, 
"dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com
    <mailto:dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>" <dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com
    <mailto:dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>>, "Bitar, Nabil N"
    <nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com
    <mailto:nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com>>, Sagessi 
<sajassi(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
    <mailto:sajassi(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>>, "gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
    <mailto:gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>" <gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
<mailto:gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>
    Cc: "pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <mailto:pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>" 
<pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
    <mailto:pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>, "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
<mailto:ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>"
    <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <mailto:ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>
    Subject: Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06

    Hi Dave,
    Sorry for a late reply addressing your comments. Please, see inline.

    Thanks,
    Nabil

    From: "Black, David" <david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com 
<mailto:david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com>>
    Date: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:57 PM
    To: "dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com 
<mailto:dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>"
    <dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com <mailto:dinmohan(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>>, 
"Bitar, Nabil
    N" <nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com
    <mailto:nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)one(_dot_)verizon(_dot_)com>>, Sagessi 
<sajassi(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
    <mailto:sajassi(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>>, "gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
    <mailto:gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>" <gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
<mailto:gen-art(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>
    Cc: "Black, David" <david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com
    <mailto:david(_dot_)black(_at_)emc(_dot_)com>>, "pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
    <mailto:pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>" <pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
<mailto:pwe3(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>,
    "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <mailto:ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>" 
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
    <mailto:ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>>
    Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06

    I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
    Gen-ART, please
    see the FAQ at
    <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.

    Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call
    comments you may receive.

    Document: draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06
    Reviewer: David L. Black
    Review Date: August 20, 2012
    IETF LC End Date: August 20, 2012

    Summary:
    This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits that
    should be fixed before publication.

    <NB> Thanks.

    This draft covers defect behavior for Ethernet pseudowires,

    including defect state mapping and PE defect reporting behavior.

    The draft is generally in good shape.  I found a few minor nits.

    1) The draft uses a lot of acronyms - while each acronym appears to

    be expanded on first use, an additional section near the start of the

    draft listing all of them would be helpful.


    <NB> Done.

    2) There's a typo in the first paragraph of section 2:

          covers the following Ethernet OAM (Opertaions, Administration and

    Opertaions -> Operations.


    <NB> Thanks. Done.

    3) The following normative reference is incomplete - please add
    additional

    information that will enable a reader to locate the referenced document:

          [MEF16] "Ethernet Local Management Interface", MEF16, January
    2006.


    [MEF16] "Ethernet Local Management Interface", Metro Ethernet Forum
    Technical Specification MEF16, January 2006.

    <NB> changed it to :

    4) idnits2.12.13 did not like the pagination:

       == The page length should not exceed 58 lines per page, but there
    was 22
          longer pages, the longest (page 1) being 61 lines

    <NB> That will be fixed.
    Thanks,
    --David
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