Re: [PWE3] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06
2013-01-14 08:36:05
Hi,
I will folloup on the other emails. Just catching up in reverse order. RDI
(Reverse defect indication) is what is used in RFC 6310 to indicate
failure in the rverse direction from the failure, and this document is
aligned with that. At the same time, RDI as Remote defect indication is
what is used for Ethernet CFM, so the attemot here is to call out
the acronyms used and in this case it is the same acronym that correspond
to two different terminologies, each with its own context identified.
Thanks,
Nabil
On 1/8/13 6:01 AM, "Loa Andersson" <loa(_at_)pi(_dot_)nu> wrote:
Greg,
RFC 6428 expands RDI as:
RDI: Remote Defect Indication
/Loa
On 2013-01-07 21:51, Greg Mirsky wrote:
Dear Nabil,
can we avoid different interpretation of the same abbreviation (RDI):
RDI Remote Defect Indication for Continuity Check Message
RDI Reverse Defect Indication
AFAIK, the latter form is the interpretation used by both IEEE 802.1ag
and Y.1731. How useful is the first form?
Regards,
Greg
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Bitar, Nabil N
<nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)verizon(_dot_)com
<mailto:nabil(_dot_)n(_dot_)bitar(_at_)verizon(_dot_)com>> wrote:
Hi Dave,
Related to abbreviations comment below and to be clearer, I renamed
the original terminology section to "Abbreviations and Terminology".
I also created a subsection called "Abbreviations" ,and
"Terminology" became the second subsection. Here iis how the edits
look
3. Abbreviations and Terminology____
3.1. Abbreviations____
AISAlarm Indication Signal____
ACAttachment Circuit____
BFDBidirectional Forwarding Detection____
CCContinuity Check____
CCMContinuity Check Message____
CECustomer Equipment____
CVConnectivity Verification____
E-LMI Ethernet Local Management Interface____
EVCEthernet Virtual Circuit____
LDPLabel Distribution Protocol____
LoSLoss of Signal____
MAMaintenance Association____
MDMaintenance Domain____
MEMaintenance Entity____
MEGMaintenance Entity Group____
MEPMaintenance End Point____
MIPMaintenance End Point____
MPLSMultiprotocol Label Switching____
MS-PW Multi-Segment Pseudowire____
NSNative Service____
OAMOperations, Administration, and Maintenance____
PEProvider Edge____
PSNPacket Switched Network____
PWPseudowire____
RDIRemote Defect Indication for Continuity Check Message____
RDI Reverse Defect Indication
S-PESwitching Provider Edge____
TLVType Length Value____
T-PETerminating Provider Edge____
__ __
3.2. Terminology____
This document uses the following terms with corresponding
definitions: ____
- MD Level:Maintenance Domain (MD) Level which identifies a value in
the range of 0-7 associated with Ethernet OAM frame. MD Level
identifies the span of the Ethernet OAM frame.____
- MEP:Maintenance End Point is responsible for origination and
termination of OAM frames for a given MEG.____
- MIP: Maintenance Intermediate Point is located between peer MEPs
and can process OAM frames but does not initiate or terminate
them.____
Further, this document also uses the terminology and conventions
used in [RFC6310].____
Thanks,
Nabil
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Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06
Hi Dave,
Sorry for a late reply addressing your comments. Please, see inline.
Thanks,
Nabil
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Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
Gen-ART, please
see the FAQ at
<http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call
comments you may receive.
Document: draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-06
Reviewer: David L. Black
Review Date: August 20, 2012
IETF LC End Date: August 20, 2012
Summary:
This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits that
should be fixed before publication.
<NB> Thanks.
This draft covers defect behavior for Ethernet pseudowires,
including defect state mapping and PE defect reporting behavior.
The draft is generally in good shape. I found a few minor nits.
1) The draft uses a lot of acronyms - while each acronym appears to
be expanded on first use, an additional section near the start of
the
draft listing all of them would be helpful.
<NB> Done.
2) There's a typo in the first paragraph of section 2:
covers the following Ethernet OAM (Opertaions, Administration
and
Opertaions -> Operations.
<NB> Thanks. Done.
3) The following normative reference is incomplete - please add
additional
information that will enable a reader to locate the referenced
document:
[MEF16] "Ethernet Local Management Interface", MEF16, January
2006.
[MEF16] "Ethernet Local Management Interface", Metro Ethernet Forum
Technical Specification MEF16, January 2006.
<NB> changed it to :
4) idnits2.12.13 did not like the pagination:
== The page length should not exceed 58 lines per page, but there
was 22
longer pages, the longest (page 1) being 61 lines
<NB> That will be fixed.
Thanks,
--David
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