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Re: SHOULD and RECOMMENDED

2013-06-24 14:54:12
The mistake I was attempting to avoid here was concluding that RECOMMENDED 
should not be used.

It does have a necessary use that is distinct from SHOULD.

Given the number of citations it gets, I am sure someone will be willing to 
volunteer to do a revision if Scott Bradner is not interested.


On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:39 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> 
wrote:



--On Monday, June 24, 2013 07:52 -0400 Phillip Hallam-Baker
<hallam(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

They are not synonyms

Lets go back to 1980:

Implementations SHOULD support DES
vs
RECOMMENDED encryption algorithms: DES, IDEA

Actually, that is the point.  The usage above, although much
earlier, reflects the Protocol Specification/ Applicability
Statement split rather well.

But 2119's language makes the two terms substitutable for and
equivalent to each other, which is about as close a definition
of "synonyms" as one can find.  What I said is that making them
equivalent was probably a mistake and that treating them that
was should be discouraged. Others expressed agreement with that
assessment.  

Personally, I don't think the problem is severe enough to reopen
2119.  If others disagree and believe that 2119 is generating
enough problems to be worth an update, I await a draft.

So, other than quibbling about the "synonym" issue -- not
generally, which no one has claimed, but in context with 2119--
are you disagreeing and, if so, about what?

  john



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