Hi Doug,
At 22:38 15-07-2013, Doug Barton wrote:
Interesting, but pardon my being blunt, it does not seem to cover
any new ground. You did say one useful thing:
IETF specifications usually provide guidance to ensure
interoperability. Whether dotless domains are harmful or not is a
policy matter.
It's a -00 draft. The above paragraph is one of the two arguments in
the draft.
Can you (or Ofer) define how you're using the terms "explicit" and
"implicit" in terms of DNS search, and what their relevance is to
the topic of dotless domains? And no, I'm not being snarky, I think
part of the problem here is a fundamental misunderstanding of how
the vast majority of hosts are configured currently.
Speaking for myself, I would say that "explicit" is what the user
configured and "implicit" is what the is not used-configured.
I haven't seen anyone in the IETF arguing that the moon is made of
green cheese either. What does your comment have to do with
anything? Sorry (again) to be blunt, but the IETF pounding the "this
thing is bad!" drum is not a particularly effective tool. [1]
I hope that "market forces", whatever that means, is not the main
argument to dispel problems.
We have to be realistic about how and where our influence is
relevant, and more importantly how and where it is not. Detailing
the technical problems with the proposal is relevant IETF work, but
that job has already been done more thoroughly by my esteemed former
colleagues on the SSAC.
I don't have any influence. I take no position on the SSAC
report. What I did was to read all the IETF specifications
referenced in the draft and write a draft. It does not bother me to
be unrealistic. :-)
It is up to those who decide to decide whether dotless domains is a good
idea that will gain traction or a bad idea that will go away on it own.
You vastly overestimate your own importance in the grand scheme of
things. Don't worry, it's a common human problem. :) Rather than
repeating my point for the third time, see what I wrote just above.
I left in the paragraph that was quoted for context. The text says
"those who decide". I don't have anything to do with the decision
about dotless domains. As I am not important it is unlikely that I
might overestimate my importance. :-) I don't know the grand scheme
of things and I do not need to know the grand scheme of things.
Regards,
S. Moonesamy