On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen(_dot_)farrell(_at_)cs(_dot_)tcd(_dot_)ie> wrote:
I hope folks who invest effort in tooling try to make it all
easier and not harder. Right now we don't have good tools that
allow remote folks to easily provide "live" input (and maybe
that's just because its a hard problem). So I'd say we should
keep trying to make that better and not worry yet about how to
control abuse of what's not currently usable.
Yup, afaict we were doing ok until IETF 87... but at least one anonymous jabber
participant (named "Guest") did remotely speak multiple times at the mic on one
of the RAI working group sessions this past week (at RTCWEB if I recall). I
was personally ok with it, but it was awkward. If folks feel it's
inappropriate, then we need something else. I'd be ok with just having jabber
scribes ignore anonymous participants.
On 08/04/2013 11:41 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
And have separate rooms that require registering, like
"[wg-name]@members.ietf.org" or whatever,
We don't have, nor (I believe) do we want, "members."
Yeah, "members.ietf.org" was a poor choice of domain name. I wasn't making a
formal proposal - just thinking out loud. I'd be happier if the tools team
figures out something simpler and less onerous anyway. I was just noting it's
not an impossible task to accomplish, some way or other.
And we do
want good technical input regardless of source. About the only
reason to try control that via registration is due to patent
nonsense. That is (unfortunately) a real reason, and we do have
to take it into account, but please let's all bear in mind that
99% of those patents are total crap (regardless of country afaik)
and let's not be driven by the stupidity but rather let's put
that in its proper place as a regrettable cost of being open.
Amen to that!
-hadriel