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Re: [iaoc-rps] RPS Accessibility

2013-08-07 01:26:50
Just thinking out aloud....

What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge
and shows it on the screen?  Everyone (right?) in a meeting has a
badge  wit his/her/its :) name and affiliation, so privacy concerns
are just comparable to those of wearing a badge.

Of course, this is not applicable to jabber participants, in that case
you need a different solution.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Henning Schulzrinne 
<hgs(_at_)cs(_dot_)columbia(_dot_)edu> wrote:
Yes, a group from my lab did this, using short-range RFID. (The range was 
about 1-2 inches.) It required a bit of a setup which made it hard to 
replicate at scale, but it worked reasonably well.

Privacy concerns are an issue, but you'd have to be very close to the person 
to sense the card (and you can obviously leave it behind any time you'd want 
to) - it would be much more convenient to track people using BlueTooth or 
WiFi MAC addresses, if you'd be so inclined, or just use video cameras. Yes, 
you can use long-range directional antennas to increase your read range, but 
those would be rather hard to hide. As was mentioned, the hotel room cards 
use very much the same technology, and you can't really leave them behind 
when you leave the building.

Henning

On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dan York <york(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org> wrote:

On the topic of badge-sensing at the mic, I seem to recall that we had this 
working at an IETF sometime back in the RAI working groups. It was maybe 4 
or 5 years ago and I think it may have been some student(s) under Henning 
Schulzrinne at Columbia... but I am not sure about that.  I remember that 
when you went to the mic you put your badge up to this sensor and your name 
appeared in the jabber room. We used it in several of the RAI sessions at 
that IETF. Unfortunately I don't remember how well it worked or why it 
wasn't continued. There may be someone out there who can provide some 
insight. (And if it was Henning's students we can just drop him a note.)

Dan

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On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Paul Aitken" <paitken(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

I've remotely participated in several IETFs.

I find that the biggest problem with remote attendance is the lack of 
visual cues. I've come to realise just how important these are in a meeting.
-are people paying attention, are they interested / confused / distracted / 
bored?

Also there's no way for local attendees (in the WG room) to know that 
remote attendees are "at the mic" and whose turn it is to speak.

There's been some discussion on the "87attendees" mailer about badge 
sensing at the mic - whether QR codes, NFC, or RFID. This could help remote 
attendees too.

eg, see what they did with NFC + mic here: 
http://www.5thbar.me/blog/2012/09/14/nfc-enabled-badges-at-the-5thbar-mobile-marketing-forum/

P.
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