Abdussalam could usefully clarify whether he means "limit the presentation time
of an I-D" or "limit the time spent on an I-D".
But in either case, I think that I would prefer to see the opposite to such
limitations. I would like to see technical topics that the WG needs to discuss
receive plenty of agenda time (and that to include as much presentation time as
is needed to seed the discussion and explain the authors' and others' positions
on a topic), while I would prefer to avoid presentations of "this is the status
of my draft" and "this is what my draft says" which can be mugged up in advance
by reading the I-Ds.
In fact, I am increasingly weary of catalogues of 5 minute presentations (to the
point of wondering whether to fire chairs for this - RTG Area chairs take note!
:-) I know it is "important" to be on an agenda if you are going to travel to an
IETF meeting. I know it is "important" to show that you are making a
contribution to the WG. But we have to get over it!
Adrian
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker
Sent: 24 February 2014 14:14
To: l(_dot_)wood(_at_)surrey(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk;
abdussalambaryun(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Policy of WG chairs in organising time for presentations and
face2face discussions
On 2/23/2014 10:49 PM, l(_dot_)wood(_at_)surrey(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk wrote:
How many IETF meetings have you attended, and what experience do you base
this recommendation on?
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From: ietf [ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun
[abdussalambaryun(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent: 24 February 2014 03:43
To: ietf
Subject: Policy of WG chairs in organising time for presentations and
face2face
discussions
...
I suggest in London that you assign only maximum 10 minutes present per WG
draft and maximum 5 minute for individual draft (as limit policy).
I'll suggest that that question is primarily ad hominem and even if it
weren't, it's not a particularly helpful line of response. It doesn't
matter what the background is of the person asking the question.
What matters is whether a rigid rule limiting time per topic is helpful.
I think it isn't. Some topics require more. Some require less.
The usual focus in IETF discussions about meeting management is,
instead, about /how/ time is used, rather than how much of it, notably
pressing to avoid tutorial or reportorial content, instead focusing on
discussion of pending items, such as those creating an impasse.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net