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Re: Last Call: <draft-iab-2870bis-01.txt> (DNS Root Name Service Protocol and Deployment Requirements) to Best Current Practice

2014-05-29 14:12:40

On 29 maj 2014, at 20:29, David Conrad <drc(_at_)virtualized(_dot_)org> wrote:

And lack of policing (which seems to be what you talk about) is I think a 
separate issue.

That's not really what I'm talking about.  What I am saying is that it I 
don't really see the point in the IETF attempted to demand stuff outside of 
its control. In most standardization/protocol definition contexts, the IETF 
specifying "MUST" or "MUST NOT" usually makes sense since folks generally 
have a choice in obtaining equipment/software/service that is implementing 
those standards. 

This is NOT the case with the root servers. 

By and large, the Internet community gets what the root server operators deem 
at their sole discretion (perhaps informed by outside-the-IETF contractual or 
other obligations) within their interests to provide, nothing more and 
nothing less. 

In April 2012, the IETF, via BCP177, already stated "IPv6 is required" yet B, 
E, and G still do not support IPv6 (yes, I'm sure there are reasons, that's 
not the point). RFC 2010 was published in 1996 and was mostly ignored by the 
root server operators. RFC 2870 was published in 2000 and was mostly ignored 
by the root server operators. What has changed that makes you believe a new 
RFC is going to have a different impact?

I do not think it has a different impact. I am more nervous over what the 
impact will be if IETF stop saying IPv6 is required. If IETF do not say so it 
is impossible to say that B, E and G does not live up to whatever requirement 
IETF set.

I.e. I do not think it is wrong that IETF require what IETF want to require. 
The error is elsewhere.

   Patrik

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