Re: Webmail is implementation, not Internet architecture (was Re: Change the mailing list protocol, not DMARC.)
2014-06-14 09:50:02
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Dave Crocker <dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net
> <mailto:dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net>> wrote:
>
> On 6/12/2014 6:33 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, John C Klensin
> <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com <mailto:john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com>
> ...
> > (2) One of those changes --support for remote body parts-- was
> > incorporated into MIME in its very first version and contains
> > most of the mechanism needed to support what I understand PHB is
> > recommending for PUSH-PULL-PULL. It has been implemented in
> > several places but has gotten very little traction in the mail
> > sending and receiving community. IMO, it ought to be incumbent
> > on anyone proposing a different "get notification, then retrieve
> > mail from server" model explain why their ideas will be more
> > successful than that 20-odd-year-old MIME mechanism.
> >
> > In a word - WebMail.
>
> This is a classic confusion between software implementation and
> operation, vesus networking architecture.
>
> Webmail is nothing more than a particular style of user interface,
> integrated into the operations of a particular service.
>
>
> It is the mode used by the majority of mail users today. Which makes
> it rather more than just technology from a deployment point of view.
That's almost certainly not true, or it's certainly highly questionable.
Two words:
1. Outlook
2. Smartphones
Some data to support this conclusion:
http://emailclientmarketshare.com/
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