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Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work

2015-02-25 05:11:27
I think this conversation is lumping together physical interim meetings (such 
as httpbis held while working on HTTP/2, and such as the TLS working group has 
been holding for the past half year) and virtual interim meetings (anything 
from conf calls to conf calls with shared presentations)

Both are productive, the physical meetings perhaps more so, but I am not happy 
with the proliferation of those meetings. Attending an IETF week is difficult 
enough. Flying all over the world to the various physical meetings excludes all 
but the most dedicated participants. And those who choose not to fly are very 
much excluded. All the meetings that I considered attending remotely either had 
no audio transmission, or totally lacked microphone discipline, and the jabber 
channel was ignored. For all intents and purposes they were a private meeting 
of the “in crowd”.  Remote participation in IETF week may have its faults, but 
remote participation in physical interims is unworkable.

Pair that with the large amount of progress that can be made in a full-day or a 
two-day meeting, and by the time the meeting is over, the conversation has 
progressed to such an extent that those who were not there are left behind, and 
the conversation continues on the mailing list even while the things that had 
been hashed out in the interim meeting are being “taken to the list”.

I think it is fine to encourage virtual interim meetings, but unless we can 
find a way to provide consistent remote participation for physical interims, we 
should not encourage them.

Yoav