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Re: discussion style and respect

2015-06-10 22:55:10
On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Michael StJohns <mstjohns(_at_)comcast(_dot_)net> 
wrote:
1) Is my description of the IETF process reasonably close to reality?  E.g. 
does the consensus process contribute to "Standardization by Combat"?

No.   It makes it difficult for people to get what they want without winning on 
the merits, at least in principle, and the desire to get what we want without 
winning on the merits is what leads to this combativeness you are referring to. 

3) If my description is correct, can the process be changed without changing 
the fundamental nature of the IETF?

I would argue that the current move in the direction of less combative 
discourse is a fundamental change to how the IETF works, and it is a good 
change.  The fact that combative discourse ever produces an outcome that 
rewards those who engage in it is a very serious process failure. 

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