Hi folks,
Interesting discussion… brings memories to me from the time I was very young
and my country was a dictatorship and some citizens were more citizens than
others.
So it’s about balancing many aspects here:
• Visitors feeling welcome
• The event being abused for a PR wash-up of the local cacique
• Locals being given the opportunity to interact with people with different
backgrounds, etc.
• Etc. etc
I welcome these discussions, because in many other ‘global’ events they do not
exist for the sake of money (Olympics, FIFA, FIBA, …). Sit back, relax and
think it thoroughly through. And then, in the future, be consistent ☺
My -.2 cents in this discussion
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Dr. Pedro A. Aranda Gutiérrez
Technology Exploration -
Network Innovation & Virtualisation
email: pedroa d0t aranda At telefonica d0t com
Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo
C/ Zurbarán,12
28010 Madrid, Spain
Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden.
Fragen sind da, um gestellt zu werden.
Georg Kreisler
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De: Recentattendees <recentattendees-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de
"MH Michael Hammer (5304)" <MHammer(_at_)ag(_dot_)com>
Fecha: viernes, 27 de mayo de 2016, 15:34
Para: "Thompson, Jeff" <jefft0(_at_)remap(_dot_)ucla(_dot_)edu>, Dan Harkins
<dharkins(_at_)lounge(_dot_)org>
CC: "recentattendees(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org"
<recentattendees(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, "Ietf@Ietf. Org"
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100
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From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Thompson,
Jeff
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:55 AM
To: Dan Harkins
Cc: recentattendees(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Ietf@Ietf. Org
Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF
100
On 2016/5/26, 21:11:51, "Recentattendees on behalf of Dan Harkins"
<recentattendees-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on behalf of
dharkins(_at_)lounge(_dot_)org>
wrote:
I would also like to suggest that the ability of certain members to
bring their family on a vacation that coincides with an IETF should not
be a governing factor in venue selection. Many people like to launder a
business trip into a family vacation (myself
included!) but that's not why the IETF exists and it should have no
bearing on where we meet.
So then, the IETF policy would read ³The IETF may hold meetings in countries
where the law declares some people less valid. If you are such a person, then
the IETF recommends that to avoid trouble with the law you should hide who
you are, including not bringing your family.²
Is this the organization that the IETF is going to be?
- Jeff
Jeff,
Is there any country in the world that meets the standard your comment implies
should be the IETF policy? Is this a case of perfection being the enemy of
good? Perhaps it is a case of perfection being the enemy of reality. I don't
know what IETF policy should be but I do recognize that there are very real
limitations that constrain choices. I'll also point out that the choices made
will constrain the choices of participants. I'm not advocating for any
particular choice by the IETF with regard to meeting locations.
Mike
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