Re: IETF 100, IAOC perspective

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!important; }  We should make the outcome of this debate more visible. Event 
apparel should be

               I SAIDI'D BOYCOTT SINGAPORE    AND ALL I GOT WAS    THIS LOUSY 
T-SHIRT

        100 IETFs!

(I do not second Ohta's opinions, and he misunderstands mine. ALL participants' 
families are equally unimportant; I left mine on the other side of the planet 
years ago...)

Lloyd Wood
lloyd(_dot_)wood(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk

On Friday, June 10, 2016, 1:30 AM, Harald Alvestrand 
<harald(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no> wrote:

 On 06/08/2016 08:13 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
  
 I understand that, but then all our debate has been 99% useless.

At LEAST we need to make sure that the Singapore government know that we go 
there most probably because we have no other choice at this point in time for 
planning another venue, and that we will most probably not return if the laws 
keep the same. 
 
 For some reason I'm reminded of the (apparent) belief of old NetNews denizens 
that one could shape the Real World by rearranging the hierarchy of NetNews 
group names (remember soc.religion.islam.ahmadi?)
 
 While the IETF has great influence over many things, this idea vastly 
overestimates our influence.
 
 I'd be surprised if any government official in the parts of Singapore 
government that deal with this kind of issues even knows we're coming. We may 
have IT-related contacts, and telling them that we've had this debate will 
cause no harm, but the threat of IETF formally boycotting Singapore is .... 
less than awe-inspiring.