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Re: Structure of IETF meeting weeks

2017-04-18 17:43:24
On 19/04/2017 09:34, Stephen Farrell wrote:

Hiya,

On 18/04/17 22:22, Toerless Eckert wrote:
For example, there is a lot of death by powerpoint in meetings that pushes 
off
high bandwidth discussions ("oh, we're out of time"). AFAIK, most active work
on drafts during IETF meeting week happens outside of the WG meetings.

It's true. And that is *exactly* the problem with meetings where a large 
fraction
or even a majority of attendees are remote. They are automatically excluded from
that informal active work. So, be careful what you wish for.

I think that
a) was not the original plan, and b) i have not seen IAOC sending around 
questionaires
what/how to improve the quality of the meetings in this respect.

I agree with the criticism, but not sure I agree about surveys being
the best next step.

One suggestion I made before I exited the IESG was that we consider
changing (or experimenting with) how the meeting week is structured,
for example, only having formal WG sessions in the afternoons, and
leaving the full mornings free for hackathons or informal meetings.
(Partly, that's because I hate getting out of bed early, which sadly
was not considered sufficient justification:-)

Exactly why it should be the other way round: meetings start at 09:00
sharp, and informal sessions after 14:00.  People are deadline driven...
 
Anyway, I think it'd be good if the IESG/IAOC encouraged experiments
in such ways of organising ourselves when loads of us do end up in
one place for a week or so.

Certainly, nudging everybody away from "I came to the IETF to make my
presentation" would be a Good Thing.

    Brian

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