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Re: [mail-vet-discuss] Seeking consensus on MUA use

2008-12-12 19:17:10

On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

Douglas Otis wrote:

No, iprev would not be a good solution. The reverse IP address  
space  is poorly maintained which causes resource limited  
performance to be  reduced by an order of magnitude while waiting  
for the timeouts.


But iprev requires relaying of the IP address as part of its  
reported output.  So the header field would report:

  Authentication-Results: <authserv-id>; iprev=<result>  
policy.iprev=<ip-address>

You could, I suppose, use that to relay the IP address to an  
internal MUA or filter in association with results from other  
methods, but that isn't the intended use of iprev.  That sort of  
thing remains out-of-scope.

This is abusing the iprev method when reverse DNS is not examined.   
There is no result that says "skipped" just to note the IP address.

It is also wrong to suggest that a domain found with either Sender-ID  
or SPF is more stable.  It remains conjecture whether a domain that  
appears to have authorized the SMTP client had established  
restrictions on the use of their identifier.  This uncertainty occurs  
due to the lack of consensus regarding the basic scope of the SPF  
record, versus the scope defined by Sender-ID.  While the IESG  
recommends advice given in Sender-ID, there is a large segment of the  
community that ignored this advice.  As such, a domain's relationship  
with the SMTP client is not assured.

When this header is used to establish message annotations, listing a  
compromised system by IP address for an extended period offers a means  
to help ensure annotations are withheld.  Such a listing by the IP  
address would be less disruptive than when done by the domain.  When  
done by the domain, all messages will be prevented.  When done by the  
IP address, only those from the listed compromised system are  
affected.  In addition, IP addresses that are dynamically assigned are  
also often persistently listed as such, and are seldom used to send  
email.

-Doug



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