Re: Re[2]: Lawsuits, angry business users, and SPF stupidity.

--Chris Drake <christopher(_at_)pobox(_dot_)com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> You're only making SPF look more silly with your remarks. "If you own
> that sort of business, you should have your own mail server."  Great.
> So SPF means that you're going to force everyone who runs a business
> to own their own domain, their own mail server, their own permanent
> internet connection, and their own DNS?  Bzzt. real rude.

No, Chris, it is you who are being rude.  Did you mean to be?

You have not stated your actual objection, only a wild accusation that SPF 
will be implemented by your ISP and will cause "legitimate" email intended 
for you to be lost.
Most folks on this list are interested in *constructive* feedback of all 
types.  That means if you make an effort to articulate clearly, speak 
politely, make positive suggestions, and LISTEN in your turn as well, you 
will be well-received.
SPF is adopted voluntarily by domain owners who don't want to have their 
domain address forged or joe-jobbed, and equally voluntarily by receivers 
who wish to screen email by respecting the domain owner's wishes.  That 
means an ISP publishing SPF information is certifying that certain sending 
servers are authorized and others are not.  Your point assumes that 
"legitimate" email will be sent from other servers, not the ones designated 
by the owner of the domain?  If the mail is not respecting the published 
policy of the domain owner, I don't see how it can be described as 
"legitimate".
If you don't see the inherent value of anti-forgery protection, currently 
lacking in SMTP, that's fine.  You probably don't need to be on the list in 
that case.  If I am misunderstanding your point (either because I am thick, 
or because you haven't stated it clearly), or not addressing it properly, 
why not contact me off-list and save the rest of the subscribers the 
trouble... I will be happy to read and respond if it will save bandwidth 
for others.
thanks
gregc
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Greg Connor <gconnor(_at_)nekodojo(_dot_)org>

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