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Re: SPF will solve spam and punish spammers

2004-07-23 10:31:35
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Paul Howarth wrote:
| Daniel Taylor wrote:
|
|> As I pointed out, a formal reputation system is not necessary
|> to catch fly-by-nights. New domains will usually be suspect,
|> just as people are reluctant to do critical business with
|> companies that are "too new", and new domains with overly permissive
|> SPF records will probably get blackholed with the rest of the
|> untrusted internet.
|
|
| How does a mail server know the domain is new? It has to do a whois
| lookup. Have you ever tried parsing arbitrary whois data? Have you ever
| tried requesting hundreds of whois lookups from the same IP in one day?
| If you have, you probably found that your IP got blocked by the owner of
| the whois server.
|
| A reputation scheme will require a whole new infrastructure, and someone
| will have to pay for it. And everyone will have to trust it...
|

As Mr. Gardner pointed out, greylisting is sufficient, i.e. "it's new to
me",
and overly permissive SPF records are self-evident.

I am not arguing the obvious risks of public criminal behaviour
as he has made that point quite to my satisfaction already.

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Daniel Taylor          VP Operations            Vocal Laboratories, Inc.
dtaylor(_at_)vocalabs(_dot_)com   http://www.vocalabs.com/        
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