I am not substituting my judgment for theirs. They are free to do whatever
they want including running an open relay or spamming. Just as I am free to
do what ever I want or deem prudent. That is all up to them. I am saying our
mail server will not accept email from mail servers who want to do any the
above or want to remain with the status quo by specifying the entire
internet as acceptable source for sending email.
I considered it prudent to run a virus scanner and not accept viruses. I
think it is prudent to run spam filter and not deliver known spam. I
consider it prudent not to accept email from mail servers on restricted
dynamic ip address. I also consider it will be prudent not to accept email
from domains that have no or open spf records in the future.
Now if that results in some domains not be able to send email to our email
addresses so be it. Those domains can live with that or become responsible
member of the internet community.
These are business decision made by my company for the express benefit and
desire of our customers. If and when the customer desire change we will then
address the new issues raised by our customer wishes.
We have not lost a customer because of the above policies and that is what
matters. In fact because of the above policies we have gained many customers
and that means we are doing what our customers and users want.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vivien M." <vivienm(_at_)dyndns(_dot_)org>
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] Re: Military
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of John
Keown
Sent: July 28, 2004 10:00 AM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Re: Military
Should not be sending from employers computers.
Set up a web mail interface on port 8u0 for your users and
they will be able to connect through any provider except
maybe their employer.
Still no reason to have the entire ip space as a spf record.
Has it ever occurred to you that some people out there don't like webmail?
And that they like even less the fact that SPF creates some perverse
incentives for large organizations (in particular, though the same thing
applies to small ones) to migrate offsite people to webmail-only setups?
(Hint: if you've already got a webmail system set up, it's cheaper to tell
people to use it rather than set up SMTP AUTH for them, and then get them to
reconfigure their mail clients for it.)
What you're basically saying is that if some domain is happy with the status
quo, YOU (who obviously know better about their email policy needs than they
do) are not going to let them specify the status quo in an SPF record
because YOU substituted your judgment for their administrators'.
Vivien
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