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Re: [xsl] XSLT 2.0 has arrived

2007-01-24 06:33:13
Abel Braaksma <abel(_dot_)online(_at_)xs4all(_dot_)nl> writes:

Strange, you appear to be quite a Java expert yourself. Is that your 
book? I wonder, because the basis of any Java app (and Windows app, for 
that matter, but they call it DLL Hell) is getting the classpath 
straight. Though imho, that goes almost automatically (but I can't speak 
for the Mac)

On Unix, there's another huge problem: you never know what linked 
libraries there are and often you have to build from the sources to get 
it right for your flavor of Unix. Hardly an ideal system for an average 
user.

I agree that every system has its flaws, I just don't consider it fair 
considering the whole system bad just by having some bad experience with 
one app. I don't throw away my Mac because I can't get my video camera 
connected, and I am neither calling it a bad system. It just is 
incapable of installing a custom driver.

"It's not a good system" sounds quite out of place here. Having tens of 
millions of happy users (of which a lot are, luckily, criticists too) 
being able to easily use the splendid and well thought-of classpath and 
lib path system (it never gave me any trouble either), should make you 
wonder why the heck it is so hard for you.

Hang on. I make a living building java apps for people as well (at
least I used to) and I prefer xsltproc as well.

Why? Because xsltproc is part of my operating system. When it isn't I
can install it with the local package management tool. The windows
binary version works really well as well.

Whereas everytime I use saxon I have to spend 10 minutes working it
all out.



Is it Sun's fault, not Dr. Kay's? Yes. Does that mean Saxon doesn't 
have this problem? No.

Not agreed, because you neglect the fact that Saxon comes in two 
flavors: .NET and Java. So, even if you are amongst the group of people 
that loath Java (as there is this seemingly small group that loathes 
Windows, or .NET, or Perl, or PHP or MySQL etc) you can still use it. 
And .NET can be used with MONO on any Unix flavor (not tried it
though).

It's not that. The documentation isn't great and it doesn't try very
hard to do the right thing.

For example, you should be able to run saxon just with a jar, eg:

  java -jar saxon.jar my.xslt myinput.xml

but the last time I tried it wasn't possible.

If these things were done then people like Elliotte and myself would
use saxon more.

-- 
Nic Ferrier
http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk   for all your tapsell ferrier needs

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