On Wed, 4 Mar 92 18:58:51 +0100 you said:
Timing is lost. Mandatory minimal support is lost.
Implementations are lost. Other RFCs like news will not support
MNEMONIC initially, so that would be lost too.
Keld:
"Timing is lost." A good point. This has dragged on long enough. So
quit these stalling tactics, and lets get this all *published*, before
NeXT sells another 200,000 machines that speak their own bizzare
non-MIME scheme...
"Mandatory minimal support is lost." Rather a lame excuse, as for about
90% of the terminals around here, any MUA would have to punt and show
Mnemonic as raw ascii anyhow. And those people who write MUA's for the
kind of devices around here that COULD display Mnemonic correctly will
probably write code to do it, "just to take it to its limit".
"Implementations are lost." Since you have previously stated that
Mnemonic is *already* in use, I'm curious what implementations will be
lost. Can you give a list of sites/implementors who are willing to
*themselves* go on record as saying that they will *NOT* support
Mnemonic unless it's in the base MIME RFC?
"Other RFC's are lost..." Well, there *is* a cure for this - if we quit
quibbling and get MIME out the door, then get a Mnemonic RFC published,
we have a chance of getting the *combo* of documents out early enough so
that the News people have a chance to incorporate it in there
documents. Of course, if we were *really* interested in MIME/Mnemonic
support in netnews, there'd be a good, active liaison effort between the
two groups. Anybody know if this is the case?
Why cant we publish MIME with reference to mnemonic, according
to IESG?
This has been explained before. We can't public MIME *with* a reference
to Mnemonic, *BECAUSE THERE IS NO OFFICIAL DOCUMENT TO REFERENCE*.
Mnemonic is still in 'draft' status. As such, it is unofficial and not
citable.
The IESG has spoken. Mnemonic will *not* be part of the base MIME, nor
will 2022-JP. The Oriental contingent is apparently mildly displeased
with this, but willing to work within the "insert your IANA charset hook
here" that MIME provides. I see no reason why in the interests of
fairness, that Mnemonic not be done the same way.
/Valdis