At 12:05 PM +0200 3/28/03, Esa Laitinen wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:43:20AM -0500, Kee Hinckley wrote:
I think that advertising a RBL, getting people to use it, adding
innocent ISPs to it, and then charging them to get off is pretty
close to blackmail.
Sure. And your proof of innocent ISP's getting listed is exactly where?
Notice that proof of listing is not enough. Let us know the IP's
involved so others can decide for themselves if the listing was
justified.
It's very odd that anytime anyone says anything negative about a
blacklist they promptly get accused of being loose with the facts.
Doesn't seem to happen on any other topic on this list.
The World. 199.172.62.105. Do you think Barry's been spamming lately?
> In this case, the RBL is used by another RBL. Osirusoft. Do you
suppose that people who subscribe to Osirusoft's RBL are aware that
they are aiding this kind of thing?
How is Osirusoft's bl using blars (pointers, please)? Sure, the www
lookup on Osirusoft's site queries blars as well, but I fail to see any
information regarding Osirusoft's bl using blars.
I have seen the bounce message. The sender was at The World. The
receiver said he was using Osirusoft. Since Osirusoft's web site is
down, and I don't know their DNS lookup addresses, I'm afraid you're
on your own for the rest.
Of course, if we follow the typical course of these discussions, the
IP will no longer be on the blacklist, and you can tell me that I'm
wrong and that the message actually didn't bounce for that reason.
--
Kee Hinckley
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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