Slight difference to the wording.
It should be clear what the person if opting out from. We don't have to
define spam, just the solicitations that they are opting out from.
Phill
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric D. Williams [mailto:eric(_at_)infobro(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:43 PM
To: 'Brad Templeton'; John R Levine
Cc: william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] Opt-Out Notes: too complicated, ignoring history
Brad,
You make a good point for an additional requirement:
Requirement 7) The proposal SHOULD describe a working definition of
Unsolicited, Solicited, Bulk and other terms used to describe
messaging
commonly referred to as SPAM.
Eric
On Friday, March 28, 2003 3:33 AM, Brad Templeton
[SMTP:brad(_at_)templetons(_dot_)com]
wrote:
...
On the nearly-technical side, I am also concerned about how
much success
there will be in defining the terms. Some what Solicited
to be implied on a
pre-
existing relationship (possibly with a "respect unsubscribe
requests" rule)
and others
want solicited to mean explicit subscription. I would hope
they can be
reconciled. And there are arguments on bulk in either case
and where the
cutoff should be, though in truth all low cutoffs are
probably enough to
solve the spam problem -- if they were obeyed. Alas, I
have poor faith on
any
of this being obeyed. As you know, a significant fraction
of the spam
sent today is already illegal under non-spam laws ---
fraud, illegal medical
sales and all the rest -- so I see little hope in those
spammers obeying
the No-UBE sign we might hope to put up on our mailbox.
Back to the technical, I would still recommend that any
protocol defined
in this matter allow individual choice. Thus an ability to
express desires
after a RCPT command, in addition to at the banner, with a
requirement that
new mail tools SHOULD support this while older ones may
only support the
banner.
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