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Re: [Asrg] Spam Control Complexity -- scaling, adoption, diversity and scenarios

2003-04-20 12:55:10
"John Fenley" <pontifier(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
  The main disadvantage is that I'm not going to talk to someone using
a C/R system, because it means increasing *my* workload, to lower
*their* spam problem.  This is fundamentally evil, in my opinion.

So don't talk to them. The point is that C/R stops people who dont want to 
talk to the reciever. You don't care, therfore C/R works. If you had any 
sort of desire to speak to the person, you would answer the challenge and be 
done with it.

  I'm afraid you're missing my point entirely.  I refuse to answer the
challenge, not because it's too much work, but because they're
nonsense.  I refuse to go out of my way to jump through *your* hoops,
just because I have a passing desire to speak with you.

  Imagine visiting a friend, and discovering they have a doorman.  The
doorman won't let you in, until you show photo ID, answer a few
questions, and maybe give him a tip.  With such a system, you'll
discover that you'll lose most of your friends.  The only people
willing to deal with such a system will be close relatives asking you
for money, or bill collectors.

  I think I'll implement an automated response to C/R systems, saying
"Thank you for sending me the challenge.  I will respond if you make
it worth my while.  I expect it to take an hour (hey, I'm dumb), and I
charge $1000 per hour consultancy rates.  Please forward funds to
<address>, and I will respond to your challenge"

  That's a great idea!  I've just implemented my own C/R system, in
response to other peoples C/R systems.  What's wrong with that?  You
couldn't possibly have any reason to be negative about my system...

Mock me if you must, but a small increase can have a huge effect when that 
small increase is widely distributed.

  <shrug> You seem to have a one-country-centric viewpoint.  That's
all I was commenting on.

  Some countries will see *no* net effect from spam fighting systems,
because they have almost zero internet usage.  "The economy" they have
is currently doing fine, and doesn't need any boost.

  Alan DeKok.
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