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Re: [Asrg] Spam Control Complexity -- scaling, adoption, diversity and scenarios

2003-04-20 14:17:21
From: "Alan DeKok" <aland(_at_)freeradius(_dot_)org>
  I'm afraid you're missing my point entirely.  I refuse to answer the
challenge, not because it's too much work, but because they're
nonsense.  I refuse to go out of my way to jump through *your* hoops,
just because I have a passing desire to speak with you.

I am not missing your point. You are missing mine.
I have a right to make you jump through a small hoop if you expect me to jump through the larger hoop of reading whatever email you (the random person I don't know yet) decided to send me.

  Imagine visiting a friend, and discovering they have a doorman.  The
doorman won't let you in, until you show photo ID, answer a few
questions, and maybe give him a tip.  With such a system, you'll
discover that you'll lose most of your friends.  The only people
willing to deal with such a system will be close relatives asking you
for money, or bill collectors.

The attitude of the doorman is the main issue there, not that there is a doorman.

Real world example of a C/R system:
Visitor: (pushes doorbell)Ding Dong
Resident: (through intercom) Who is it?
Visitor: (through intercom)It's Steve.
Resident: (through intercom) Oh, ok. Let me buzz you in.
Door: Buzzzzzzzzzzzzz *click*

  I think I'll implement an automated response to C/R systems, saying
"Thank you for sending me the challenge.  I will respond if you make
it worth my while.  I expect it to take an hour (hey, I'm dumb), and I
charge $1000 per hour consultancy rates.  Please forward funds to
<address>, and I will respond to your challenge"

Obviously I won't get your message.

  That's a great idea!  I've just implemented my own C/R system, in
response to other peoples C/R systems.  What's wrong with that?  You
couldn't possibly have any reason to be negative about my system...

Other than the details, I think its a fine system. I'd feel important, and I'd rush to my mailbox everyday looking for a check.

> Mock me if you must, but a small increase can have a huge effect when that
> small increase is widely distributed.

  <shrug> You seem to have a one-country-centric viewpoint.  That's
all I was commenting on.

  Some countries will see *no* net effect from spam fighting systems,
because they have almost zero internet usage.  "The economy" they have
is currently doing fine, and doesn't need any boost.

Not yet.

John Fenley

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