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RE: [Asrg] A New Plan for No Spam / Velocity Indicator

2003-04-25 20:24:03
Like 89 is not a big number, but it is a lot bigger than 0.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Youll [mailto:jim(_at_)media(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:09 PM
To: Vernon Schryver; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] A New Plan for No Spam / Velocity Indicator


At 20:41 -0600 4/25/03, Vernon Schryver wrote:
 > From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>

 ...
 > >   - A definition of the spam problem based on 89 
messages received by
I am bothered by the facile talk from many quarters of a spam corpus
of a few thousand messages collected over months or years.  
Characterizing
spam in an academically rigorous way is hard and I heard of 
no serious
efforts in that direction.  If one doesn't have many current samples
from many addresses at many different kinds of domains, I do not see
how one could claim to have more than mildly interesting anectdotes.
We're talking about a population of 1,000,000,000s of messages sent
daily to 100,000,000s of addresses.  Any sample of fewer than 0.1% or
1,000,000s of messages/day (millions per day!) requires convincing
arguments that it is representative instead of mere anectdotes.


So, 89 isn't a very big number but...

when you back out the *redundancy* (most of those 1,000,000s a day
are like most of the others) what's really there? Granted there may be
some things that cannot be measured without knowing the true volume,
but surely useful information can be derived.
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