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RE: [Asrg] Another criteria for "what is spam"...

2003-06-03 20:08:25
Could you all and others please forward to me a brief definition of what 
criteria you would consider for spam.  I will attempt to conform the criteria 
and present that later to the list and as an addition to the requirements draft 
set of definitions.


On Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:33 PM, Barry Shein 
[SMTP:bzs(_at_)world(_dot_)std(_dot_)com] wrote:
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  Spam is e-mail from a source which is hard to impossible for
  the recipient to stop and/or reasonably prevent from receiving.

I think the loss of control is very much at the heart of spam and many
other attempts at definition dance around this somewhat.

On Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:51 PM, Bill Cole 
[SMTP:aarg(_at_)billmail(_dot_)scconsult(_dot_)com] 
wrote:
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Spam is email which is sent without a well-founded belief on the part
of the sender that he has the specific permission of the recipient to
send that mail and which is substantially identical form to mail sent
to multiple recipients.

In short: unsolicited bulk email.

On Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:30 PM, Peter Kay 
[SMTP:peter(_at_)titankey(_dot_)com] wrote:
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Here's mine:

Spam is transmission of mass email without the prior explicit
authorization of the recipient.

===Some of the prior input.

On Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:18 AM, Brad Templeton 
[SMTP:brad(_at_)templetons(_dot_)com] 
wrote:
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My current impression of the intersection definition is mail that is:

                  Sent as part of a mass mailing, which is to say some
                      person commanded that mail be sent to more than
                      a few hundred people

                  The recipient never solicited the mailing, nor has
                      had voluntary contact with the sender in the past

                  Is commercial (Many people request this in the definition,
                      but usually only if not including the mass mailing
                      component, so this might not stay)

                  The sender has not been asked to stop mailing the
                      recipient

                  If was not directly solicited (ie. is sent due to
                      an existing relationship) the sender adheres to
                      a reasonable and operational system to allow the
                      recipient to ask not to be mailed again (See #4)

On Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:22 AM, David Walker 
[SMTP:antispam(_at_)grax(_dot_)com] 
wrote:
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Messages of a commercial or pseudo-commercial nature sent using fake e-mail
headers and/or underhanded techniques.

Messages of a commercial or pseudo-commercial nature sent using legitimate
techniques (no fake headers) or semi-legitimate techniques but sent to
individuals who either opted out or never opted in to receiving mails from
the sender.

On Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:18 AM, Jon Kyme 
[SMTP:jrk(_at_)merseymail(_dot_)com] wrote:
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Well (referring to the charter) how about:
A communication for which there is no consent given by the intended
recipient.

On Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:52 PM, Eric D. Williams 
[SMTP:eric(_at_)infobro(_dot_)com] 
wrote:
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SPAM - 1. Messaging in the MTS which violates best current practices for MTA
providers to assure proper canonical representation of it's originator. 2. A
message that does not reflect accurate information for its originator or that
is transmitted with simulated information nominally used to trace origination
[that's a tight squeeze as it ignores incorrect configurations].  3) A 
message
with fraudulent tracking information that is in fact flawed at origination to
obfuscate its origin.

SPAMMER - A user, company or other end entity that engages in introducing 
SPAM
into the MTS.

On Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:38 PM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip 
[SMTP:pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com] wrote:
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      Spam = Unwanted and indiscriminate messages

Works fine here.


On Friday, April 04, 2003 8:55 AM, Jim Youll 
[SMTP:jim(_at_)media(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu] wrote:
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I suggest, but nobody will listen:

"Spam" - a generic term for a problem in electronic mail whereby
people are receiving messages that they don't want to receive, and
can't stop. The "spam problem" is very simply about the right to be
left alone.

"(fill in precise language here)" - suitable plain language for a
particular type of sender, message, measurement or other thing
related to the spam problem... one example would be "unsolicited
commercial e-mail from strangers" which can be packed into 'UCE' when
appropriate. "Spammer" is appropriate when referring to a generic
class. "Stock scammer" would be more specific.

-e

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