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Re: [Asrg] 3. Requirements and what is spam

2003-11-18 15:50:25
Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 11:41, Jon Kyme wrote:
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It might also be instructive to check out the archives of this list.
Here's a good one:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg07341.html


Spam definitions? No thanks. We have a "consent-based communication" model.
Spam is the other stuff :-)


Fair enough. Established order has spoken and dissension is unwelcome. The message is clear, and I will act accordingly.


<grin>I did not think we became communist yet, at least I haven't noticed all the extra perks party members supposed to get</grin>

In any case, the reason why we are trying to steer away from this, is because both inside and outside the group, definitions vary. Your original definition concentrated on the "unsolicited" aspect of spam, on the other hand the DMA's definition of spam is forged email. A consensus on what is spam exactly has not been reached by anyone inside or outside the group.

Additionally, as I stated in my other message, your definition is basically "unsolicited" which looks at the email from the individual users' perspective. "Bulk" on the other hand, is what bothers most ISPs, not unsolicited. Both must be taken into the account, and your definition is basically half of the ASRG working definition.

Yakov




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