On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Barry Shein wrote:
So what you're saying is that anyone with a broadband connection
should be prevented from delivering email directly.
I don't disagree, in the current milieu, but I'm sure there are some
who would disagree.
Everyone who has not agree to be responsible for consequences equvalent to
having user run its own mail server. I take it that those users with windows
who ended up with zombied machines don't have a clue about this and I
certainly don't want them anywhere near my mail system. A responsible
tech user with his own linux box is another matter entirely but I believe
those users can make arrangement with their ISPs to get static ip and have
that ip included as valid smtp transmission initiating entity.
On December 21, 2004 at 15:51 william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
(william(at)elan.net) wrote:
>
> It should be ISP's responsibility to help other ISPs and as such most
> appropriate way to deal with zombies is for ISPs to indicate which of
> their ip blocks are used by broadband end-users and which are real mail
> servers. If majority of ISPs did that, that would effectively cut the
> zombie spam only to be within ISP's own network, which I'm sure they'd
> deal with a lot more promptly (and if they don't its really their
> problem and their users who have to suffer but nobody elses).
>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Barry Shein wrote:
>
> > The idea of complete end-user control is a utopian ideal which died a
> > few years ago when spammers' zombie bots began hitting ISPs by the
> > thousands simultaneously.
> >
> > At this point there are only two choices, either block at the ingress
> > (e.g., blocking network blocks and similar), or begin charging around
> > $1000/month for e-mail accounts to pay for the bandwidth and hardware
> > necessary to keep up with the unfettered flow (essentially, a
> > dedicated server with a dedicated T1 per mailbox.)
> >
> > Anyone who says otherwise, notably EFF, is just ignorant.
> --
> William Leibzon
> Elan Networks
> william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
--
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
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