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Re: [ietf-dkim] updated threat analysis outline

2005-08-25 08:47:15
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Douglas Otis wrote:

I am having some difficulty following the scenario being described, so I
will respond to what I think is being said.  My apologies if I
misunderstood.

You understood pretty well.

Example.com could wait a number of days for these messages to expire,

They can do this with a key rollover, but that will cause collateral
damage unless they wait a few days. There isn't any other support for
expiry.

Example.com could decide to discontinue the use of the account used to
send the marketing material.

Had the RCPT TO hash idea been used, then example.com could also have an
idea where not to send their next run of mail to help prevent future
occurrences

Neither of these will stop Mr Vendetta's spam run.

It could be that example.com has marked each message so they know where
Mr. Vendetta obtained the initial copy, as this has been a problem in
the past.

In effect they are using the revocation ID to do this.

Now to protect their reputation, Example.com issues a revocation of the
message being replayed by Mr. Vendetta.  This revocation may affect the
delivery of some intended recipients, but the damage being done to their
reputation warrants this strategy.

If the revocation ID is per-recipient there will be no collareral damage
affecting email to other recipients.

This ignores the opportunistic identifications made possible by the
revocation-identifier.

I would say "raises problems with" rather than "ignores" - my point was
that the assumptions behind your opportunistic identification heuristic
are not solid.

However, example.com will have recommended the bindings of the
mailbox-domain and the signing-domain which excludes the
revocation-identifier, as they completely control the use of their
domain's mail and want their mail accepted without causing any user
prompts for approval.

So you'd need a more flavoursome SSP.

Tony.
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