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Re: [ietf-dkim] ABNF: Sender = Originator / Operator

2006-03-10 17:26:41

On Mar 10, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:

Daniel Dreymann wrote:
Not to add too much confusion, let us not forget that CAN SPAM uses the term "sender" solely for what is referred below as "author".

There are several problems with this:

1. Can-Spam is but one country's law and choice of terminology.

2. Their particular vocabulary has not seemed to have much effect on anyone else's choices.

3. The problem with that particular word's ambiguity in general, anti-spam discussions, is not small. We really do need a tiny number of easily remembered and used terms that make important distinctions.

#3 is the main issue, as I see it.


Using Nicks list

--- the-entity-responsible-for-creating-the-content-of-a-message

User identification is out of scope for DKIM as it falls into the realm of S/MIME and OpenPGP. Although there might be coincident domains in the signature and email-address found in a header field commonly related to a domain of origin, there is little to confirm the user has been properly identified by the signing-domain and the recipient has properly recognized the user. Accountability for user verification remains with the signing-domain. As such, the signing- domain, and not the user must be held accountable. Problems are resolved at the domain and not at the user, so there is little value describing the roles of individuals. Consider this a problem of what email delivery function can be associated with what domain. There is greater value discarding the concepts of author/provender, sender/ provider, or book/publisher. There is also already some IPR related to this distinction called the PRA. There seems to be little value reinventing this wheel.


--- the-entity-responsible-for-emanating-a-message

This operation might be done by the MSA or a Mediator (such as a list server) where either role should be identifiable.


--- the-entity-responsible-for-getting-a-message-to-a-recipient.

  This operation is done by the MDA.


-Doug

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