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RE: [ietf-dkim] ABNF: Sender = Originator / Operator

2006-03-10 11:00:40
Not to add too much confusion, let us not forget that CAN SPAM uses the term
"sender" solely for what is referred below as "author".

ESPs sometime consider themselves "senders" while their clients on behalf of
whom they send are "mailers".

From CAN-SPAM:

(16) SENDER.?
(A) IN GENERAL.?Except as provided in subparagraph
(B), the term ??sender??, when used with respect to a
commercial electronic mail message, means a person who
initiates such a message and whose product, service, or
Internet web site is advertised or promoted by the message.
(B) SEPARATE LINES OF BUSINESS OR DIVISIONS.?If an
entity operates through separate lines of business or divisions
and holds itself out to the recipient throughout the
message as that particular line of business or division
rather than as the entity of which such line of business
or division is a part, then the line of business or the
division shall be treated as the sender of such message
for purposes of this Act. 

--
Daniel T. Dreymann
Co-Founder & SVP Product, Engineering & Operations
Goodmail Systems, Inc.
Mobile: 650.823.4268    daniel(_at_)goodmailsystems(_dot_)com 



-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org 
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On Behalf Of Dave Crocker
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 09:08
To: Jeff Macdonald
Cc: Bill(_dot_)Oxley(_at_)cox(_dot_)com; ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] ABNF: Sender = Originator / Operator

Hmmm...

... I find it very easy to understand
things when talking about books. An author creates a book. A publisher
introduces the book to the world in a presentable format. A Bookstore
make the book available to the public. Using Bill's suggestion:

email         books
author                author
originator    publisher
operator      bookstore

I noted your earlier use of 'publisher' and it bothered me quite a bit.

However  I am warming to the model you describe.

1. It is an extremely well-established model.

2. It pertains to salient responsibilities in an information transfer
sequence.

(Given that multiple operators can be in a sequence, I'd suggest
'distributor' 
rather than 'bookstore'.)

It scares me quite a bit to have my email operator be vested with apparent 
responsibility for the content of my email, but, alas, I guess that really
is 
what the anti-abuse work is about.

What do other folks think?

d/

-- 

Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
<http://bbiw.net>
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