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Re: [ietf-dkim] How to reconcile passive vs active?

2006-08-07 11:50:49

On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:



Steve Atkins wrote:
From my perspective, the number needn't be small at all.  Small
organizations with their own mail processing infrastructure can with
...
Even when it decreases overall deliverability? That is to say, causes
legitimate email to be treated as forgeries and, likely, discarded.

I can see cases where that's going to be an appropriate tradeoff, but I
don't think they're as widespread as some people think.


We need to find a way to discuss the design choices so that we are not faced with a bevy of personal prognostications about the likelihood of particular
outcomes.  Most, if not all, of us will be wrong.

Rather:

Do we see a clear and compelling benefit for a design choice being proposed?

Is it substantially better than some other choice being proposed?

Do we see an absence of significant detriments? (Complexity, scaling,
performance, reliability, etc.)

Do we see a clear and substantial base of users/organizations for the choice NOW?

Only then might we consider adding a guess about the size of the population from
which this sample of adopting users/organization is taken.

Debating whether my sample is bigger than yours is certain to be unproductive.

Definitely.

A lot of the controversy about SSP is based on
false positives - mail that was signed when sent but is not
signed when received.

I know that various people have been looking at the cases where
that can happen, but I don't recall seeing any quantitative
results presented. If they have been, could someone point me
at them?

Cheers,
  Steve

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