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Re: [ietf-dkim] list vs contributor signatures, was Wrong Discussion

2010-04-30 02:28:18
On 4/29/10 6:06 PM, John Levine wrote:

 I just don't see how you can simultaneously say "throw away unsigned
 mail" and "don't throw away unsigned mail if a list says it used to
 be signed" unless you have some way to identify trustworthy lists.

Agreed.  People might trust authentications of a From domain based upon 
valid Author Signatures, but they should not trust From domains based 
upon A-R header indications of previous Author Signatures without 
knowing how the A-R headers were processed.  Any assumption of proper 
processing would permit simple exploits and invite abuse.  Those most 
interested in determining proper A-R header processing by third-parties 
would be those with an interest in protecting their recipients, such as 
financial institutions.

 But once you know that a list is trustworthy, why wouldn't you just
 accept all its mail?  I just don't see a plausible scenario where you
 you know you trust the list but still want to accept or reject mail
 based on assertions the list itself makes.

Not all mailing-lists will remove A-R headers. One misleading A-R header 
from a normally acceptable mailing-list promoting inappropreate trust 
could be replayed in a spam campaign.  Such messages would be difficult 
to reject and might lead to inappropriate annotations.  Who should be 
expected to retain audits of A-R header handling?

-Doug




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