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Re: A 30% solution

2004-05-11 19:21:31

On 5/11/04 at 2:33 PM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:

Yes, I did notice that.  Unfortunately, the concern stands.

There is a fundamental difference between having an authority relationship between two fields -- such as RFC2822.Sender _setting_ RFC2821.MailFrom -- versus requiring any portion of the values in the two fields to be the same.

OK, clearly I need to go back to something you said in your previous message, because you are simply missing my point. Earlier you wrote:

In any event, we need to establish a very explicit working group rough consensus about the semantics of RFC2821.MailFrom, given its fundamental role in working group discussions.

I think this is ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. We do not need any such establishment of what RFC2821.MailFrom means because that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with my proposal. My proposal does not assume that the receiving server knows the meaning of RFC2821.MailFrom, and it doesn't assume it has anything to do with RFC2822.Sender. It is VOID OF SEMANTICS in my proposal. It is the place where you get the domain to check. Full stop. My proposal would work perfectly well if RFC2821.MailFrom meant "where the mail came from" or if it meant something completely different. And my proposal would work perfectly well if the place where you got the domain was RFC2821.EHLO. It has nothing at all to do with the semantics of the proposal.

As I said earlier, please remove use of the word "from" in the 3 places where I used that word in a way that set you on this. Replace it with "associated with". The semantics of RFC2821.MailFrom have NOTHING AT ALL to do with the use of that word in those sentences.

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