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RE: Wide-Open MADRID

2004-06-01 09:01:40

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From: owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org
[mailto:owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of Jon Kyme
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:25 AM
To: ietf-mxcomp(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Wide-Open MADRID



Sauer, Damon:> 
4. Why don't you want me to be able to say "0/0" if that is an
accurate
description of my outbound mail config?

I do not believe that 0/0 is THE most accurate description you could
give.



You're requiring that I MUST NOT publish MADRID if I'm totally agnostic
about what IPs source mail with my name on it, or that spammers MUST
NOT
publish big-ISPs IPs (ha!).

Yes. This is exactly what I am saying. 
I am agnostic to the 45 MPH speed limit on long 6 lane road leading to
my house. I feel it should be 55.
This is not a 'suggested' speed limit. It is the law. I can choose to
break the law if I wish, but I run the chance of getting a ticket.
The same analogy here. Make this a requirement, the agnostics can do
what they wish, but they run the risk of being rejected.


I still don't see why you need this built into
MADRID. Let me publish whatever I like, if you don't like it - take
whatever
action you wish. I would have thought that the wide-open (or
not-my-IPs)
statement is giving you some information that you can use, more than if
I
don't publish anything, certainly usable in an anti-spam application.

The whole purpose of MADRID is to keep mailers from 'spoofing' where
they are coming from.
It should not allow you to "publish whatever I like" it should REQUIRE
you to publish the most accurate data describing your system.
Garbage in ~ Garbage out. That is what any DB admin will tell you. Allow
spammers to "Publish whatever I like" and the schema will be useless.
Unless you are a spammer, I don't see the complication in requiring the
most accurate data possible.



Regards,
Damon Sauer




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