----- Original Message -----
From: "Hector Santos" <hsantos(_at_)santronics(_dot_)com>
To: "Dave Crocker" <dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: pseudo LAST CALL - draft-crocker-email-arch-04.txt
That's too bad. I don't see the logic. SIEVE is a specific complex
language
is not mandatory for internet email operations. Systems already have
other
options in place, proprietary, open or otherwise. How about Spam
Assassin?
A pretty popular package. How about wsSPAMGuard, a 3rd party package for
our system. How about McAfee or Norton? All "Mail Filtering"
"blackbox"
components that can be hooked into a framework. The future of the email
framework is most definitely headed to integrated frameworks. SIEVE is
just
one option and I strongly believe it takes away from your document to make
it read like it is a requirement, which it is not.
I posted my original reply to you and the list. But you use the wrong
IETF-SMTP address in your original message. So anyone doing a REPLY to
your
post to the list will fail I just got the bounce. I will forward my
response to the list. Of course, I don't expect much feedback, but I do
so
just to get it on public record.
Sincerely,
Hector Santos, CTO
Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com
305-431-2846 Cell
305-248-3204 Office
http://www.winserver.com/wcsap (Wildcat! Sender Authentication Protocol)
http://www.winserver.com/spamstats (WcSAP Anti-Spam Stats)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>
To: "Hector Santos" <hsantos(_at_)santronics(_dot_)com>; "ietf-smtp"
<ietf-smtp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: pseudo LAST CALL - draft-crocker-email-arch-04.txt
My only problem with the draft in your attempt to make it a standard is
the how you insist in imposing "Sieve" a specific technology and
clearly
a specific language framework in what is otherwise a generalize
Internet
Email Framework.
Sieve is listed in the context of Internet standards. Are there other
internet standards for filtering that have gained any significant
adoption?
Note that that same list shows MDN and DSN.
We don't use SIEVE and we don't intend nor plan to use SIEVE anytime in
That is nice, but not overly relevant. The document does not claim that
everyone uses any of the cited standards nor does it claim that anyone
must
use them.
Absent a groundswell of community support for the change you are
requesting,
the text should stay as it is.
d/
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Dave Crocker
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