Re: [ietf-smtp] [Shutup] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealth

On 12/2/2015 11:54 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 8:43 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> > On 02/12/15 16:32, Derek J. Balling wrote:
> > > Why isn't this as simple as chartering the WG to go off and:
> > >
> > > 1.) Document the answers to questions 2 and 3 above, with data
> > > 2.) If they so choose after doing #1, propose remedies or changes to the
> > > existing methodologies consistent with the data they found above
> > (With no hats) That seems eminently sensible to me. I'm sure
> > the specific text to describe the questions would need a bit
> > of work, but that oughtn't be too hard.
> 1. That's an IRTF type of task, not an IETF type of task.
>
> 2. As sensible as the task might seem, the IETF pretty much never
> requires documentation about expected efficacy.  That makes imposition
> of such a requirement, here, discriminatory.
>
> The original approach to chartering working groups was rather simpler:
>
>   1.  Is there clear indication that 'the community' wants to do this,
> by virtue of there being folk who want spend time on wg development and
> they or other folk making noises about interest in implementing and
> developing it?
>
>   2.  Is there a clear understanding of potential /danger/ from doing this?
>
> These days, we mostly stop at the first half of Question 1.  But we have
> pretty much always left the question of 'efficacy' to the market.
It seems to me that #1 is covered by virtue of the request existing in
the first place.

I would argue that #2 will be covered in whatever work-product the WG
comes up with (just as any other RFC would have to document
negative-impacts, lack of backward compatibility, etc.).

D

-- 
I prefer to use encrypted mail. My public key fingerprint is
FD6A 6990 F035 DE9E 3713 B4F1 661B 3AD6 D82A BBD0.

You can download it at http://www.megacity.org/gpg_dballing.txt

Learn how to encrypt your email with the E-Mail Self Defense
Guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/

signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

_______________________________________________
ietf-smtp mailing list
ietf-smtp(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp