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Re: The utilitiy of IP is at stake here

2003-06-01 15:02:03
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch(_at_)muada(_dot_)com>

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So I'll repeat myself: let's have an anti-spam BOF 

Face to face talk is likely to be of even lower quality than this
thread.  With email with a broad audience like this, people can
squelch obvious nonsense with data or pointers to real data and
independent reports.
(e.g. http://www.google.com/search?q=spammer+%22dictionary+attack%22 )

BOFs are transient committees and so are even worse than most committees
for creating things.  All you might do in a BOF is discover whether
anyone is interested is dealing with spam.

                                                   and hopefully and 
anti-spam wg. First order of business for this wg: analyze the spam 
problem and then see if mechanisms can be found to reduce the amount of 
spam by 1 - 2 orders of magnitude. After that, we can decide if it's 
worth it to write a protocol and try to have it deployed.

That sounds more like research than protocol documentation and
standardization.  Why have you rejected the repeated pointers to
the IRTF/IETF ASRG research group?  In case you didn't intend to
reject them but just missed them, please consider:

 http://irtf.org/
 http://irtf.org/groups.html
 http://irtf.org/charters/asrg.html
 https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/maillist.html

or

 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Major+Internet+Standards%22+spam


Vernon Schryver    vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com